Are Angels Walking with us Here on Earth in Mortal Form?

[samuraiX]

Sam,

This is why I told you to check your premise.

You are making the wrong assumption based on wrong information. What your Catholic School teacher taught you is wrong and is contrary to Scripture principles.

Remember when Jesus Christ was in the wilderness and He was tempted by the devil?

Then the devil took him to the holy city and had him stand on the highest point of the temple. “If you are the Son of God,” he said, “throw yourself down. For it is written:

“‘He will command his angels concerning you,
and they will lift you up in their hands,
so that you will not strike your foot against a stone.”

Jesus answered him, “It is also written: ‘Do not put the Lord your God to the test.”
Matthew 4:5-7

Jesus did not command His angels to help Him.

How one of Jesus' appostle Steven, who was stoned to death?

No angels helped him.

Angels only come into the scene when they are commanded to do so.

are you also going to disregard stories of survivors of accident where they say they were saved by their guardian angels or that kind of stories? even if you believe it or not, point is there are stories of ppl encountering angels, are they rebel angels going against the command of god?

thats why i asked if you believe if angels walk among men, if they are here what is their mission?

[bishop]

are you also going to disregard stories of survivors of accident where they say they were saved by their guardian angels or that kind of stories? even if you believe it or not, point is there are stories of ppl encountering angels, are they rebel angels going against the command of god?

thats why i asked if you believe if angels walk among men, if they are here what is their mission?

Sam,

I think the problem is that you are doing selective reading on my replies. It seems you are only reading PARTS of my reply, that is why you are not getting what I am trying to say.

Look again at my respond in my Post #2 (page 1)

Do I believe that G-D's angels are among men, in human form here on Earth?

-Yes, I do.

This is in Scriptures. There have been many instances where the L-RD's angels appeared to man in human form.

Do they "work and play" like the rest of us?

No, I do not believe so.

Angels have specific roles and missions. This is very clear in Scriptures.

Some are warrior angels, some are messengers.

But then this becomes a Catch 22 question.

If for example an angel came to my help in human form, I would not know that he is an angel. Simply that he is another person helping me.

point is there are stories of ppl encountering angels, are they rebel angels going against the command of god?

Again you are making a wrong assumption based on wrong information.

I never said that angels will NEVER HELP man.

I said that they will help man ONLY upon ORDERS FROM G-D.

So those stories that you mentioned, they would be cleary operating on orders.

if they are here what is their mission

Like I said, their mission is ONE thing: Obey the orders from G-D. They can do nothing more, nothing less.

[samuraiX]

Sam,

I think the problem is that you are doing selective reading on my replies. It seems you are only reading PARTS of my reply, that is why you are not getting what I am trying to say.

Look again at my respond in my Post #2 (page 1)

Do I believe that G-D's angels are among men, in human form here on Earth?

-Yes, I do.

This is in Scriptures. There have been many instances where the L-RD's angels appeared to man in human form.

Do they "work and play" like the rest of us?

No, I do not believe so.

Angels have specific roles and missions. This is very clear in Scriptures.

Some are warrior angels, some are messengers.

But then this becomes a Catch 22 question.

If for example an angel came to my help in human form, I would not know that he is an angel. Simply that he is another person helping me.


Again you are making a wrong assumption based on wrong information.

I never said that angels will NEVER HELP man.

I said that they will help man ONLY upon ORDERS FROM G-D.

So those stories that you mentioned, they would be cleary operating on orders.



Like I said, their mission is ONE thing: Obey the orders from G-D. They can do nothing more, nothing less.

ok lets start from the beginning
-angels walk among us but on a specific mission from god
-you said only god specific mission to angels and they are not here to save ppl

question is, what about the stories of ppl that encounter angels like stories here: Stories of Angel Encounters is god selecting only ppl whom he likes to save?

[bishop]

ok lets start from the beginning
-angels walk among us but on a specific mission from god
-you said only god specific mission to angels and they are not here to save ppl

Sam,

Let me re-phrase:

Angels are not here to save mankind from death in general. They save men who have been targeted for un-timely death.

question is, what about the stories of ppl that encounter angels like stories here: Stories of Angel Encounters is god selecting only ppl whom he likes to save?

Sam, the issue here is not whether or not G-D saves whom He likes to save. But rather that neither you nor I knows what G-D's reason is for saving one and not another.

It is not for us to know G-D's reason. We are limited by Time, G-D is not. Therefore we can only know what we see in the "now". We do not know the future.

[samuraiX]

Sam,

Let me re-phrase:

Angels are not here to save mankind from death in general. They save men who have been targeted for un-timely death.



Sam, the issue here is not whether or not G-D saves whom He likes to save. But rather that neither you nor I knows what G-D's reason is for saving one and not another.

It is not for us to know G-D's reason. We are limited by Time, G-D is not. Therefore we can only know what we see in the "now". We do not know the future.

so when can you say its still an un-timely death, when you are "saved" from an incident that would seem death was the only result?

well that end the topic there when you say we cant know the reason for gods reason, how can we know anyway when we are even guessing ourselves, was that persons life spare because of gods plan or was that just pure luck

[bishop]

so when can you say its still an un-timely death, when you are "saved" from an incident that would seem death was the only result?

well that end the topic there when you say we cant know the reason for gods reason, how can we know anyway when we are even guessing ourselves, was that persons life spare because of gods plan or was that just pure luck

Tell me:

Those people in the link you provided who claims they where saved by angels.

Do you believe that those where real angels, or where those merely product of their imagination?

[Androniko]

there extraordinary people who are guided by these angels(holy).

[ukmac1986]

how can intelligent people believe in such ...... nonsense?

[azumi]

Do you believe that God’s angels can also become mortal and live, work and play just the same as the rest of us?

It depends on your definition of angels. If you are referring to those who look like humans but have this pair of wings as that of doves, I consider them angels in my dreams.
But figuratively speaking, I believe that there a lot of angels around us. In fact, you could be an angel if you understand how you could be one.

Do you believe that God has sent down his army of angels to watch over and protect us at the present time?

Yes. I consider them angels those who have helped people in times of trouble, fear, sickness and guided them so they can be better in life, work and relationships without getting any benefit in return.

[Androniko]

I believe there are humans with angelic traits ,they are called angelic humans and they have wisdoms and knowledge that will bring understanding to most ordinary humans.They can assist people to choose what is good and appropriate . Note that if there are good angelic humans, there are also reptilian humans who are the instruments of the devil that keep on deceiving ignorant people especially the younger generations. Pag may nakita kang tao na ibig itulak ng iba pa sa kasamaan at kapahamakan, tapos nagawa mong iligtas siya sa pamamagitan ng pagsasalita at panalangin, ang gayon ay isang gawain ng isang angelic human o mala anghel na tao dito sa ibabaw ng lupa.May mga taong pinagkalooban ng Maykapal na magpahayag ng mga salita upang mai iwas ang isang bansa o lahi ng tao sa nagbabadyang kapahamakan.Idalangin sa Maykapal na magising ang pagiging angelic humans ng bawat kakaibang indibiduwal para sa mabuting kapakanan ng ating bansa at kahit ng Daigdig nating ito. Ang bawat mananampalataya sa Dios ay maaring maging angelic humans! Halimbawa: Dakilang Ama na lumikha sa langit at lupa, sa liwanag ng inyong katotohanan, loobin nyong makilala namin ang katotohanan nyo na makakapagligtas sa amin at gagabay sa lubus na pagkilala namin sa katuwiran na makakapagpatibay sa amin bilang mga anak ng liwanag at kabanalan. patawarin kami sa aming pagkukulang at itatag nawa kami sa inyong banal na patakaran. maganap nawa ang kalooban nyo na kami ang kasangkapan sa ikakatibay ng bawat may pananalig sa inyo, sa inyong katuwiran at katarungan sapagka't ang saysay naming mga tao ay nasa inyong mga banal na patakaran at katangiang ito.gabayan nyo kami sa inyong katuwiran at maging sa pagpapahayag namin nito sa iba pa na tinawag nyo na maging bahagi ng inyong katuwiran at kabanalan ngayon at sa darating na mga panahon. sa ngalan ng inyong anak ,ang panginoong Yeshuwa, gabayan kami ng banal na diwa sa ikagaganap ng bawat kalooban nyo sa ikabubuti naming lahat na nasa daigdig na ito.siya nawa.