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Old 12-22-2008, 01:49 PM   #16 (permalink)
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tama.. displina.. nga ang solusyon.. pero sa kasalukuyang sitwasyon.. ang word na displina ba eh mapapakain ang kumakalam na sikmura ng nakakarami?
Mapapakain ng disiplina ang kumakalam na sikmura. Kung meron nito ang isang tao, magsisipag siya at maghahanap ng mapagkukunan ng pantustos sa pamilya. Hindi lang basta basta uupo at sasabihing walang maibahaging trabaho ang pamahalaan. Kailangan ito matutunan ng bawat isa sa atin.

Ang gobyerno ay hindi solusyon sa lahat ng problema ni Juan dela Cruz. Hindi naman ito nagkukulang sa paghahanap ng paraan para mapabuti ang kalagayan natin. Oo may corruption, pero kung gagawin natin itong excuse para umasa ng umasa ay wala tayong ginhawang mapapala.
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Old 12-22-2008, 02:48 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Eh mali naman kasi na isipin na yung taong ibinoto mo ang mag- aahon sayo sa kahirapan. Sarili mo ang gagawa at gagawa ng gusto mong asenso. Kung hindi ka gagawa, kahit anong galing ng gobyerno at opisyal na ibinoto mo, may mahirap pa rin sa Pilipinas.

Kahit ang pinakamayamang bansa, may mahirap pa rin. Hindi na mawawala yun. Nasa tao na kasi yun eh. Kung hindi niya kayang magsikap para sa sarili niya, talagang wala siyang asensong makukuha.
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Old 12-22-2008, 03:05 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Mapapakain ng disiplina ang kumakalam na sikmura. Kung meron nito ang isang tao, magsisipag siya at maghahanap ng mapagkukunan ng pantustos sa pamilya. Hindi lang basta basta uupo at sasabihing walang maibahaging trabaho ang pamahalaan. Kailangan ito matutunan ng bawat isa sa atin.
Couldn't have said it better. So many of us are so fond of blaming the government for not being able to provide a good life for our families. Tama, mapapakain nga ng disiplina ang kumakalam na sikmura. Hindi sa pagtatawid sa tamang tawiran o pagpila nang tama lang naipapakita ang disiplina kundi sa pagsisikap na mapaunlad ang buhay natin nang hindi umaasa sa ibang tao.
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^I agree.

Karamihan sa mga batang Pilipino nakadepende sa mga magulang kahit may kakayanan ng magsarili, kumita, paaralin at buhayin ang sarili. During the Filipino child's younger years may yaya or may nanay na taga-gawa ng homework, taga-buhat ng schoolbag, taga-prepare ng baon, etc. It seems like this pattern of dependence is hard to shake off. Katulad ngayon, lahat iaasa sa gobyerno. Sa ibang bansa, walang 13th month pay. Ang USA at Australia ay walang paid maternity leave. Ang mga employers sa New Zealand ay hindi obligadong sagutin ang health insurance ng kanilang mga empleyado. And yet, asensado naman ang mga bansang ito. Bakit kaya?

Majority of the so-called "national characteristics" begin with patterns of rearing at the smallest unit of society: the family. Mahirap magsikap ng kusa kung lumaki ka sa paniniwalang obligasyon ng ibang nilalang ang tugunan lahat ng pangangailangan mo.
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Old 12-22-2008, 05:08 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Mapapakain ng disiplina ang kumakalam na sikmura. Kung meron nito ang isang tao, magsisipag siya at maghahanap ng mapagkukunan ng pantustos sa pamilya. Hindi lang basta basta uupo at sasabihing walang maibahaging trabaho ang pamahalaan. Kailangan ito matutunan ng bawat isa sa atin.


reality check:

· Almost 1 out of 2 Filipinos see themselves as poor.
· 46% of Filipinos families (estimated 8.1 million families or about 40.5 million Filipinos out of the 2007 projected population of 86 million) see themselves as poor.

i mean ilang Percentage ba na chances ngaun para marealized ng mga pilipino ang disiplina? eh parang malabo yata.. diko inaalis ang disiplina sa solusyon upang maibsan ang kahirapan.... pero ang disiplina eh nakapadaling SABIHIN pero ang katotohanan kahit baliktarin mo ang mundo o ipwersa mo sa isang tao, o sa masang pilipino.. sasabihin magpakatotoo ka na lang diba? (no offense)

sa kasalukuyang hinaharap na problema ngayun na almost 40.5 millions kababayan na naghihirap... ano ba ang kilangan talaga kung paano sila matutulungan? eh sa paghahanap pa lang ng trabaho para may pangtustos sa pangaraw-araw na pangangailangan eh napakahirap na ngayun eh.. diba?

we need more "REALISTIC SOLUTIONS" rather than saying discipline is the number one solution.. what should be the best REALISTIC approach to atleast lower the rate of POVERTY at present.. Napaka vague,it is not clear or distinct to the sight or any other sense, it is perceptible or recognizable only in an indefinite way meaning unrealistic in a way na parang isang wish na sa panaginip lang matutupad.

we need more "REALISTIC and ACHIEVABLE" approach... sa bansa natin diba?

I say more work.... job offer hindi lang sa may nakatapos kundi sa mga malliit na kababayan na kahit hindi nakapag aral eh makakapgtrabaho para may pangtostos. bat ba lumalabas pa ng bansa ang ibang pilipino para makapagtrabho para sa kanilang pamilya? dahil mahirap maghanap ng trabaho sa pilipinas diba (un ang reality)? pero malaki ang porsyento ng mga pinoy ang hindi kayang mag abroad.. so paanu sila .. tapos wala pang available na trabaho? kaya may kahirapan.. so kahit may disiplina ang isang tao kung ang bansa mo walng enough na trabaho sa tingin ko malayo layo pa ang lalakarin ni JUAN DELA CRUZ para guminhawa... malungkot mang tingnan pero yan ang totoong nangyayari ngaun eh...


TRABAHO ---> PERA---> Panggastos---> pagkain, edukasyon, magandang kalusugan at nutrisyon, etc
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Old 12-23-2008, 04:24 AM   #21 (permalink)
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the solution should come from within each filipino. kung may kusa, may patutunguhan.
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Old 12-23-2008, 10:58 AM   #22 (permalink)
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Sabi nila, swerte daw kasi yung iba kaya umaasenso. Nagsisikap din yang mga yan kaya sineswerte. Yung swerte, paminsan minsan lang dumating sa buhay ng tao yan pero kung marunong ka dumiskarte at magsisikap ka, talagang walang kang ibang pupuntahan kungdi seswertehin ka talaga.

Sana nga lahat tayo swertihin na. Hindi masamang mangarap, pero mas mabuti kung magsisimula kang gumawa para matupad yung mga pangarap na yun.
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Old 12-28-2008, 04:14 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by maximo22 View Post
....reality check:

· Almost 1 out of 2 Filipinos see themselves as poor.
· 46% of Filipinos families (estimated 8.1 million families or about 40.5 million Filipinos out of the 2007 projected population of 86 million) see themselves as poor.

sa kasalukuyang hinaharap na problema ngayun na almost 40.5 millions kababayan na naghihirap... ano ba ang kilangan talaga kung paano sila matutulungan? eh sa paghahanap pa lang ng trabaho para may pangtustos sa pangaraw-araw na pangangailangan eh napakahirap na ngayun eh.. diba?

we need more "REALISTIC SOLUTIONS" rather than saying discipline is the number one solution.. what should be the best REALISTIC approach to at least lower the rate of POVERTY at present.. Napaka vague,it is not clear or distinct to the sight or any other sense, it is perceptible or recognizable only in an indefinite way meaning unrealistic in a way na parang isang wish na sa panaginip lang matutupad.

we need more "REALISTIC and ACHIEVABLE" approach... sa bansa natin di ba?

I say more work.... job offer hindi lang sa may nakatapos kundi sa mga malliit na kababayan na kahit hindi nakapag aral eh makakapgtrabaho para may pangtostos. bat ba lumalabas pa ng bansa ang ibang pilipino para makapagtrabho para sa kanilang pamilya? dahil mahirap maghanap ng trabaho sa pilipinas diba (un ang reality)? pero malaki ang porsyento ng mga pinoy ang hindi kayang mag abroad.. so paanu sila .. tapos wala pang available na trabaho? kaya may kahirapan.. so kahit may disiplina ang isang tao kung ang bansa mo walng enough na trabaho sa tingin ko malayo layo pa ang lalakarin ni JUAN DELA CRUZ para guminhawa... malungkot mang tingnan pero yan ang totoong nangyayari ngaun eh...


TRABAHO ---> PERA---> Panggastos---> pagkain, edukasyon, magandang kalusugan at nutrisyon, etc
This one is so simplistic:
Jobs-->PERA-->Panggastos-->food, education, good health & nutrition, etc

The problem with the above is kids nowadays go for the easy courses. How many HRM & Commerce grads do we really need? How big are the hotel and restaurant & banking industries to absorb them all? People would still be jobless in the end. And then there are those who quit school. Are janitors, messengers, food delivery people, maids, yayas, drivers, and other blue collar jobs that in demand? Parents need to emphasize to their kids that sure going to school to study highly technical or specialized courses takes a lot of effort, brain power and time and honing your language skills may not seem important but they give you the best chance in landing a well-paying job and will increase your knowledge on things you are not normally exposed to. So many people say there are no jobs! How wrong can they be! There are TONS OF JOBS! Just take a look at the Sunday papers' classified ads. There are always several pages of ads for highly technical positions that never get filled. But if you took a cakewalk course, you won't get these high paying jobs becoz you are NOT QUALIFIED and you are NOT CREDENTIALED enough! And if you have some technical skills but unable to express yourself professionally (let's face it, you need to be really proficient in English. No two ways about it.) you still will not get the jobs you are applying for. Believe me, I know so becoz some of my friends are in that category. They are pretty skilled but their English proficiency is the pits. You have to have an edge over the competition. Education is the key. As world economies become more global every day, every minute and every tick of the clock, we, Filipinos, need to adjust to the changing labor-scape or job market to remain competitive. Kung papetik petik ka lang, your options would be limited for life. Everyone needs to retool. Heck, 50-year old men and women in the US are going to school in droves to take new courses so they can get jobs or land better ones. The median age of students has increased dramatically through the last few years becoz of the changing economic realities. We cannot compete, if we, as a people or as a private person, just sit on our as$es and hope for the best. Big business will not change their job requirements or qualification take-offs for us, applicants. We have to change according to their needs and we have to change with the times.

I hate to say these and I know so many of you will disagree, one of the quickest ways to address poverty in our country is for us to amend the Constitution NOW. Not in 2010. Take a look at what happened in Vietnam. Nobody (not one of the opposition) has ever talked about the economic clause that could be included in these Constitutional amendments. Heck, but the popular sentiment against doing this is so high. So let them (the opposition) eat cake and the people eat dirt. If you want to feel good, go with that. If you want better economy, we have to take the harder route.

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Old 12-28-2008, 07:25 PM   #24 (permalink)
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disiplina sa sarili. bawat isa ay maging matalino. maging masipag.
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I agree with maximo22. To address poverty, all we need are opportunities (and of course, people qualified to have them, which brings us to SeanMartin's argument)

But seriously, given a set of opportunities, people, having an enough sense of desperation, would definitely jump at it. Bakit maraming nag aaral ngayon para maging nurse? It's because the people know that nurses are in demand. The OPPORTUNITY of earning big bucks by being a nurse is so high people, despite not really wanting to be a nurse, opt for it. It's kind of sad, in a way, that our choices are seemingly so limited, but for survival's sake, heck we'd do anything.


As for SeanMartin's proposal of ammending our Constitution, AMEN TO THAT! Well, addressing poverty only requires us to make a proper policy but our problems really lie beyond that. I'd say poverty is only a manifestation of the problems in our system. We really need to change our constitution, there are a lot of vague things in it. Ex. The constitution says that political dynasties are not allowed (or something like that x__X i need to review) but it DOES NOT DEFINE a political dynasty. Kaya ayun, nakakatakas yung mga magkakamag-anak dun sa gobyerno.
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ang ganda naman ng post nito... kaya lang, alam mo naman kultura natin, hindi ganun ka-appealing ang change..

Kahit nga tiyahin ko eh, feeling niya P1.50 pa rin ang pamasahe.
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Ang pinakamabigat na nakikita kong problema sa pinas kasi is Corruption, although its really hard to Completely Eliminate Eradicate Abolish Extinguish and any other means of removing this forbidden ewan !!! kainis sana wala nang mag corupt para umangat naman pinas, kulang tuloy lagi budget ko sa taas ng bilihin ngayon
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ang ganda naman ng post nito... kaya lang, alam mo naman kultura natin, hindi ganun ka-appealing ang change..

Kahit nga tiyahin ko eh, feeling niya P1.50 pa rin ang pamasahe.
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