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Old 03-21-2009, 12:45 AM   #31 (permalink)
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sa tingin ko kulang sa motivations ang mga teachers
pati na rin sa mga estudyante
kahit naman sa pinaka liblib na baryo may lumalabas na magagaling na estudyante
inspired by their teachers
at marami na ring teachers ang nabigyan ng parangal
marami kasing hindi seryosong estudyante
pati na rin mga teachers
mabibilang mo sa daliri mo ang mahuhusay magturo
may politika na rin sa school
may corruption na rin
abutan mo si prof, pasado ka na
pag bumli ka ng tocino, pasado ka na
mababa pa sweldo sa mga teachers kaya hindi sila ganado
kulang ang budget na nakalaan para sa education
ang inuuna kasi ng mga pulitiko ay ang budget nila
para gumanda kita nila
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Old 03-22-2009, 01:28 PM   #32 (permalink)
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ako, as a teacher, ang opinyon ko about this..
sa tingin ko hindi ksalanan ng mga teacher or estudyante kung bakit hindi nasisiyahan ang iba sa uri ng edukasyon ntin d2..

public school teacher ako...tma ang sbi nila, teacher r the kind of workers that are always overworked yet underpayed...
pero hindi iyon ang dpat n mging dhilan ng ibang ka-trabaho pra hindi ibigay ang best nila sa pag22ro...actually hindi nmn kc peudeng maging board passer ang 1 teacher kung wala silang nalalaman...cnasabi nila n ang pagpasa sa board ay swertehan...but i think hindi un tma...pag dating nmn sa mga estudyante,,this act as what they are used to...if they grew in a good environment khit pa sbihing mhirap cla eh aangat cla...mhirap both sa teachers at estudyante ma mameet ang quality education if they are not supported...

hindi nmn sa cnisisi ko ang gobyerno, pero i think kung mag22lungan lng ang bawat isa eh...mganda ang magiging bunga ni2 pra sa tin...magiging magand ang edukasyon d2 sa atin..^^ un lng
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Old 03-22-2009, 11:26 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by charleee View Post
sa tingin ko kulang sa motivations ang mga teachers
pati na rin sa mga estudyante
kahit naman sa pinaka liblib na baryo may lumalabas na magagaling na estudyante
inspired by their teachers
at marami na ring teachers ang nabigyan ng parangal
marami kasing hindi seryosong estudyante
pati na rin mga teachers
mabibilang mo sa daliri mo ang mahuhusay magturo
may politika na rin sa school
may corruption na rin
abutan mo si prof, pasado ka na
pag bumli ka ng tocino, pasado ka na
mababa pa sweldo sa mga teachers kaya hindi sila ganado
kulang ang budget na nakalaan para sa education
ang inuuna kasi ng mga pulitiko ay ang budget nila
para gumanda kita nila
Hmm, me punto ka diyan bro.
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Originally Posted by bleue21 View Post
ako, as a teacher, ang opinyon ko about this..
sa tingin ko hindi ksalanan ng mga teacher or estudyante kung bakit hindi nasisiyahan ang iba sa uri ng edukasyon ntin d2..

public school teacher ako...tma ang sbi nila, teacher r the kind of workers that are always overworked yet underpayed...
pero hindi iyon ang dpat n mging dhilan ng ibang ka-trabaho pra hindi ibigay ang best nila sa pag22ro...actually hindi nmn kc peudeng maging board passer ang 1 teacher kung wala silang nalalaman...cnasabi nila n ang pagpasa sa board ay swertehan...but i think hindi un tma...pag dating nmn sa mga estudyante,,this act as what they are used to...if they grew in a good environment khit pa sbihing mhirap cla eh aangat cla...mhirap both sa teachers at estudyante ma mameet ang quality education if they are not supported...

hindi nmn sa cnisisi ko ang gobyerno, pero i think kung mag22lungan lng ang bawat isa eh...mganda ang magiging bunga ni2 pra sa tin...magiging magand ang edukasyon d2 sa atin..^^ un lng
You have my empathy. I'm also a board passer (though my degree is not related to education but I earned some units for me to qualify to take the board ) but not practicing it in a traditional way. Meaning, I have my own center where in I have my own teachers to cater the tutorial services that I offer to parents. Through that, I have the opportunity to encounter a lot of parents' problems as far as curriculum is concerned. Not only that, the commercialism is evident to a lot of private schools (not so much in public school though as some teachers do it). From pen to shoes, parents have to buy them from the same school where their students are being enrolled. That's a bit disgusting. Well, I can go on and on but that's the trend nowadays. So what do you expect? Poor parents.

Tama ka, kung lagi nga namang ikokonsidera natin ang burden sa gobyerno at di tayo magtutulungan sa isa't isa ay san pa ba naman pupulutin ang sistema ng pangedukasyon natin kundi sa kangkungan di ba? Siguro nga madali para sa akin ang mgsalita pero mahirap isagawa kasi di ko naranasan ang magturo sa tradisyunal na paraan. Mas bihasa ako sa sarili kong sistema. Di ko kasi naranasan ang makisistema sa eskwelahan. Pero mas madalas kaysa sa hindi dawit ako sa bulok na sistema kasi naikekwento at nadarama ng mga estudyante ko.
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Old 03-23-2009, 08:32 AM   #35 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by bleue21 View Post
ako, as a teacher, ang opinyon ko about this..
sa tingin ko hindi ksalanan ng mga teacher or estudyante kung bakit hindi nasisiyahan ang iba sa uri ng edukasyon ntin d2..

public school teacher ako...tma ang sbi nila, teacher r the kind of workers that are always overworked yet underpayed...
pero hindi iyon ang dpat n mging dhilan ng ibang ka-trabaho pra hindi ibigay ang best nila sa pag22ro...actually hindi nmn kc peudeng maging board passer ang 1 teacher kung wala silang nalalaman...cnasabi nila n ang pagpasa sa board ay swertehan...but i think hindi un tma...pag dating nmn sa mga estudyante,,this act as what they are used to...if they grew in a good environment khit pa sbihing mhirap cla eh aangat cla...mhirap both sa teachers at estudyante ma mameet ang quality education if they are not supported...

hindi nmn sa cnisisi ko ang gobyerno, pero i think kung mag22lungan lng ang bawat isa eh...mganda ang magiging bunga ni2 pra sa tin...magiging magand ang edukasyon d2 sa atin..^^ un lng
No offence meant but really, no amount of moral or financial support can improve the quality of public education in the Philippines if the teachers themselves can't write properly -- in Tagalog.
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Sa tingin ko din, kulang talaga sa motivation ang mga teachers. Teacher ang ate ko at ang hirap talaga makapagturo sa public school, bukod pa sa matagal din ang sweldo.

Ngayon, nagtuturo ang ate ko sa elementary kahit na pang highschool ang dapat niyang turuan. Nandun yung opportunity eh. Pero mabigyan lang ng pagkakataon ang mga teachers, sa tingin ko gugustuhin din nilang magturo. Yun nga yung interest nila eh, ang pagtuturo sa mga bata.

Sana magkaroon din ng continuous training at seminar para sa mga teachers. Yun ang kelangan nila para makasabay sa bilis ng takbo ng impormasyon at edukasyon ngayon. Maaaring yung mga natutunan nila dati, andun pa rin ang konsepto, kaya lang marami ng nadagdag ngayon.

Hindi ko naman masisisi ang iba na umaalis sa pagkaguro at naghahanap ng ibang trabahong mas malaki ang sweldo. Sana lang, wag naman nating bigyan ng masamang impresyon ang propesyong ito. Wala ng magtuturo sa next generation pag nagkataon.
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Old 03-27-2009, 05:43 AM   #37 (permalink)
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No offence meant but really, no amount of moral or financial support can improve the quality of public education in the Philippines if the teachers themselves can't write properly -- in Tagalog.
I hope your message will come come across loud and clear to those who are concerned - not necessarily the recipient of such, though.
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sa tingin ko hindi naman tayo napag-iiwanan
matatalino parin ang pinoy. .
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Ulitin ko lang po ang tanong: Nasisiyahan ba tayo sa sistema ng ating edukasyon sa ating bansang Pilipinas (o sa pangkalahatan)? Kung ganun, gaano? At kung hindi, bakit?
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Originally Posted by Rosewillow View Post
Ulitin ko lang po ang tanong: Nasisiyahan ba tayo sa sistema ng ating edukasyon sa ating bansang Pilipinas (o sa pangkalahatan)? Kung ganun, gaano? At kung hindi, bakit?
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Educational system by itself, in my observation is pleasing if not that admirable. Educational institutions today are making themselves available to changes. UP has instituted drastic modification in their educational structure, while other private and government funded institutes are now following this chase for curriculum adjustment. Since educational systems have their own way of existence, we must let them search for their own road map to worthiness or to it's extinction.

Educational system should not be held accountable in the decay of the life of common Filipinos since it is an endless system of learning. It is the responsibility of the person to seek growth by indulging himself to learning outside of the educational establishments where much of those theoretical wisdom are put to practice. Let us be reminded that we merely gain knowledge half of our course of study in school and half of it is outside of the realm of the institution.
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Ulitin ko lang po ang tanong: Nasisiyahan ba tayo sa sistema ng ating edukasyon sa ating bansang Pilipinas (o sa pangkalahatan)? Kung ganun, gaano? At kung hindi, bakit?
yup.kontento ako sa sistema sa pilipinas.like what ive said dun sa previous post ko.there is always room for improvement.and we are sending back our kids to study in the phils for thier college course.
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Educational system by itself, in my observation is pleasing if not that admirable. Educational institutions today are making themselves available to changes. UP has instituted drastic modification in their educational structure, while other private and government funded institutes are now following this chase for curriculum adjustment. Since educational systems have their own way of existence, we must let them search for their own road map to worthiness or to it's extinction.

Educational system should not be held accountable in the decay of the life of common Filipinos since it is an endless system of learning. It is the responsibility of the person to seek growth by indulging himself to learning outside of the educational establishments where much of those theoretical wisdom are put to practice. Let us be reminded that we merely gain knowledge half of our course of study in school and half of it is outside of the realm of the institution.
agree po ako dyan.experience is the best teacher,that is why hindi lng po sa schools & universities pwd tyo mgkaroon ng kwoledge.wether its good or bad knowledge its individually learned.
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Educational system by itself, in my observation is pleasing if not that admirable. Educational institutions today are making themselves available to changes. UP has instituted drastic modification in their educational structure, while other private and government funded institutes are now following this chase for curriculum adjustment. Since educational systems have their own way of existence, we must let them search for their own road map to worthiness or to it's extinction.

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Very well said. Thank you.
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Originally Posted by charleee View Post
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mababa pa sweldo sa mga teachers kaya hindi sila ganado
kulang ang budget na nakalaan para sa education
Teaching profession by nature is a vocation.

“Teaching is a noble profession. It is service-oriented. It has the potential to have a great impact in the molding of the next generation.”

No other career in my view is head and above the teaching profession. Without a teacher, there will be no Engineers who will plan, design and manage the construction of buildings, roads, bridges, communication facilities and other mechanical infrastructure. Doctors, scientists, politicians, etc, will not exist without them teachers and the teaching process.

Financial incentives should not be assessed as a major dynamics to render first-rate education or teaching services. At the present time we see all professions including teaching related to monetary upliftment and we consider wages as primary considerations for them to serve better, in this case, we are indeed prostituting this noble profession.

We must see the good side and the product the teachers are turning over to society, by doing this we will see the true identity of our educational system, and it is not that bad.
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I dont think that giving teachers commensurate compensation for their troubles is really "prostituting the profession". Teachers are persons too. With needs. And money allows them to fulfill those needs. One's general disposition has a significant effect on one's work and teaching is a job that entails major responsibilities. A teacher's does not stop when he or she clocks out for the day - there are still lessons plan to be drawn, papers to be checked, exam sheets to be corrected, visuals aids to be updated in preparation for the next lesson. Teachers do too much and are paid too little. Hence, the tocino, longganisa and Avon side projects.

Teachers' compensation is just one of the issues besieging the education system. I still havent forgiven DepEd for circulating dodgy textbooks to be used by public school students. nwhatdheck is right though. It is the responsibility of the individual to push for his growth and development. It's futile to blame one's inadequacies to the education system.
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