04-05-2009, 07:27 AM
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Compensation will always be a predicament not by teachers alone but everyone in the bureaucracy, in private or in government service. In the Philippines, a public school teacher is maybe one of the best paid employees in government because they have one of the best rating system to obtain the proportionate remuneration to one’s competence. They have to earn merits and units in advance studies to progress to a rank where salary grades are much higher than an ordinary teacher.
We can articulate that teachers do have the longest work period than anybody else and it is true; however they have also the longest paid vacation than any civil servant in the labor force in which they have the time to be more professionally capable, earn the required units to advance to the ensuing higher rank and the passport to a higher pay.
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04-07-2009, 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by bleue21
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ako, as a teacher, ang opinyon ko about this..
sa tingin ko hindi ksalanan ng mga teacher or estudyante kung bakit hindi nasisiyahan ang iba sa uri ng edukasyon ntin d2..
public school teacher ako...tma ang sbi nila, teacher r the kind of workers that are always overworked yet underpayed...
pero hindi iyon ang dpat n mging dhilan ng ibang ka-trabaho pra hindi ibigay ang best nila sa pag22ro...actually hindi nmn kc peudeng maging board passer ang 1 teacher kung wala silang nalalaman...cnasabi nila n ang pagpasa sa board ay swertehan...but i think hindi un tma...pag dating nmn sa mga estudyante,,this act as what they are used to...if they grew in a good environment khit pa sbihing mhirap cla eh aangat cla...mhirap both sa teachers at estudyante ma mameet ang quality education if they are not supported...
hindi nmn sa cnisisi ko ang gobyerno, pero i think kung mag22lungan lng ang bawat isa eh...mganda ang magiging bunga ni2 pra sa tin...magiging magand ang edukasyon d2 sa atin..^^ un lng
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Hello po, I have a high respect for public school teachers although I'm a product of private schools from kindergarten through college.
My two aunts have the same profession with yours, they sometimes cry when they tell me a certain student has to stop because of poverty or lack of parental concern, kaya nga lang they sometimes get jaded because of red tape. My other aunt is now in Michigan, fed up with the ongoing atrocities.
My grandma was also a public school teacher, and she managed to send all 7 of her children to college without the help of my maloko at playboy na lolo, this is a huge factor because we now have a good life because of her profession. Hang in there po, maraming nakaka-appreciate sa sacrifices ninyo.
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10-21-2009, 08:32 PM
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I think there is nothing exactly that we can say as uber wrong in the Philippine system of education. One thing that I can see why we are lagging behind from other countries is that our values or "pagpapahalaga" when it comes to education is gradually disappearing. This "pagpapahalaga" may decrease because of poverty or the way some parents orient their kids.
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11-04-2009, 02:35 PM
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^I don't totally agree with that. I still believe that filipinos value education, kung tatanungin mo nga yung mga hindi mahihirap na kabataan kung ano ang gusto nila, may magsasabi makabalik sa pag-aaral, or makatapos ng pag-aaral, coz they know that's their only ticket to help alleviate their poverty.
one reason why we're left behind in terms of education is because, the govt doesn't pay much attention to improving the education system here in our country. sino ba gaganahan pumasok at magturo sa isang delapidated na eskwelahan. sino ba gaganahan mag-aral kung punit-punit yung mga libro, or worse kung walang libro na mgagamit as reference. sino ba gaganahan magturo kung overworked ka pero underpaid, sino ba gaganahan pumasok kung super layo ng eskwelahan mo, at literally you have to cross the mountains and rivers just to get there... or kung yung school eh super siksikan..
pero, marami pa rin ang nag-aaral kahit ganto kahirap yung situation kasi pinapahalagahan nila ang education, sana lang mas bigyan pansin ng government yung educ system dito sa'tin. people are willing to cooperate, but what about those who are in power?
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11-04-2009, 03:05 PM
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i have a classmate in my MA and she's Iranian. she mentioned that it's really expensive to study in their country. about being left behind, i can say there are some areas. count the facilities that needs upgrades what more those who does not have. so who should be blamed? government (corruption in public school funds)? teachers (poor teaching)? schools (not so good curriculum)? students themselves (poverty, motivation, attitude)? everyone takes part of the blame.
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11-04-2009, 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by charleee
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sa tingin ko kulang sa motivations ang mga teachers
pati na rin sa mga estudyante
kahit naman sa pinaka liblib na baryo may lumalabas na magagaling na estudyante
inspired by their teachers
at marami na ring teachers ang nabigyan ng parangal
marami kasing hindi seryosong estudyante
pati na rin mga teachers
mabibilang mo sa daliri mo ang mahuhusay magturo
may politika na rin sa school
may corruption na rin
abutan mo si prof, pasado ka na
pag bumli ka ng tocino, pasado ka na
mababa pa sweldo sa mga teachers kaya hindi sila ganado
kulang ang budget na nakalaan para sa education
ang inuuna kasi ng mga pulitiko ay ang budget nila
para gumanda kita nila
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could be a possibility. not all teachers are the same speaking of passion for teaching. like for example a public school teacher who earns below his/her needs. if you're this example, what drives the teacher? passion or money. if it's the earnings, i'll say "tsk tsk". now if it's passion then i'll say "now that's a teacher!". also with the students, motivation should drive them to study hard.
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11-04-2009, 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by vinceli
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The Philippine education system is purely based on memorizing and getting high grades. High grades and memorizing a book does not mean an individual is educated. I am lucky to experience and get my education in the U.S. and I have to say their education is based on real world applications.
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my teachers are guilty on that. i remember my science subject, exams makes most of your grades and these science exams are multiple choices, fill in the blanks, matching type, etc. so if that's the kind of exams each would take, students will have to focus on memorization without understanding what the hell those things really are. but of course that would depend on the student how will he handle that.
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11-04-2009, 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by vinceli
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If Filipino students learn fast then why is it that the best thing they can do is to create a friendster profile?
Teenagers in the U.S. launch napster to facebook that are now multimillion dollar empires, and thats without a college degree.
Filipinos put more importance in that college diploma to display in their living room, not in real education.
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so you're judging that these students you're talking about have limited intelligence? how did you conclude on that statement it is the best thing they can do?
problem is here in the Philippines, you'll have a hard time earning a living/looking for a job without a degree. would you hire a programmer without a degree? probably yes. my answer is yes if he proves he can do well. but were not those companies anyway.
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11-04-2009, 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by vinceli
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Why blame the teachers? Arent they educated in the same Philippine education system?
And how can you confine the problem to a small number of incompetent teachers? If it was just small then the greater majority of educated Filipinos should be voting more qualified people in office right?
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problem is they inheried the poor teaching from the old times. i hope in the next generation future teachers know what really teaching is.
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11-04-2009, 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by gervacio20
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karamihan sa inyo dito is mahina sa LOGIC!!! dami nagsasabi na maganda ang sistema ng edukasyon sa pilipinas kasi maraming pinoy workers na indemand sa labas ng bansa...so ganon pala yun? kung skilled worker at masipag kang trabahante ibig sabihin maganda ang pinag aralan mo? tsaka klarong-klaro yung title ng thread "sistema ng edukasyon sa pilipinas", anong kinalaman nun sa U.S?
tungkol naman sa topic, ayus lang naman ang sistema ng edukasyon dito sa pinas.
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you can't connect education = skilled workers. mostly of these skilled workers didn't even reached college or hardly finished high schools. if you think education is fine here, well i can say you do not open your eyes or you're a mediocre.
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